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01-22-2016, 11:33 AM #32481
Had 3 days off from the gym to help repair my beat up body, rest days are getting longer these days due to my RC and personal projects I am doing at the moment but things are all good.
Got the consultant on the 9th of next month regarding my bloods.
Its very hard but I think its time for me to change a few things in my training, my body is telling me I cant do the things ive done over the last 30 yrs training.
Injuries are part the game the and if anyone tells me its because of HIT well fuk you, anyone who goes through a whole life time without injuries when your building a freak of a body isn't training hard enough and WILL not be a freak unless your genetically gifted but lets me honest if any of us were that gifted we would be on stage at the Mr O. Injuries are part of the this game ask anyone with any common sense, so please no fuking comments like I had recently from a guy in the gym who said to me its because of the way I train its just to intense. I stopped talking to him and said fuk off you cvnt that's why I am 260lbs clean and your 180lbs on cycle and been training and taking gear for 15 yrs so fuk off.
Anyway rant over and sorry for going on there lol, I do that normally when on coffee and ive not had any.
Once I get the all clear whether its next month or when after ive had more treatment I will be reassessing my training and AAS use. I feel sad and cant explain how I feel its something mental inside of me that can't stand being small or I should say smaller. I know it makes zero difference to who I am but I can see I am either going to really hurt myself were I cant train for a long time or never again or I am going to get serious health issues.
Was speaking to someone over pm yesterday and I said to him, ive never in my whole life been normal in anyway, there's always been some kind of strangeness drive within me for many things in my life. Bodybuilding is huge to me my passion is still that high after 30 yrs of hard lifting and I mean some of the stuff ive lifted and done is amazing and to this day I still have that mind set its just my body cant do it anymore.
I will not be normal, I wont walk around a supermarket without normal people saying something, I will not let this happen I have to turn heads but this battle at the moment is hard and I know what it is, its the blood work and fear of results and further health issues and that's got to be my main priority and not what I lift or how I lift the iron.
I am waffling again sorry guys.
Anyway, training going fine, no records or arse bursting workouts to shout about, they don't come along every day like they use to, I know I am holding back and this pullback as been for months and the fire is burning inside to go full speed but blood work will guide me on this one.
If things do have to change with my training I will reduce my size and drop some bf and trust me by the time ive finished I will look bigger because I will be ripped to the bone, Kel will look like a fat cvnt towards me and that's saying something but if that's the way ive got to go I will do it full on so I look bigger but all this is up in the air and is being debated by the devil and angel sat on my shoulders. I am sure they will let me know once they have decided which direction I am going.
Training tomorrow and it will be intense, ive been planning and waiting for Saturday morning for days
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Spoken like a true warrior!
Im also, having this battle in my head... Almost daily! Either im good(good enough) or just in pain all day everyday(shooters up/down the arm - structurally not sound at all and feels as if it could break off at any moment)... And before anyone says anything - live with the type of pain I, Marcus, or anyone w/real chronic pain endures on a daily basis for over half of there life or longer... That's real! It's a daily battle for me sometimes minute to minute hr to hr etc
It's one of the toughest things I've had to deal with besides my accident and when I was ill... I want nothing more than to continue to grow like I want without further hurting myself... Not sure if that's possible atm but I will say this it hasn't stopped me yet, and I don't plan it on stopping me until I've reached my goals... Regardless if my shoulder just breaks off(literally)... It's definite mental battle but one im addiment on beating with more hard work! My RC/& Labrum is a complete mess and I just have to stay out of my own head(literally) dwelling makes it worse...
Thx for the update Big Man! Fvk if it wasn't for HIT I would've never made the gains I have... So I agree FVK off too! I love HIT!Last edited by NACH3; 01-22-2016 at 12:56 PM.
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01-22-2016, 12:18 PM #32483
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01-22-2016, 12:19 PM #32484
Well thanks a lot Kel..... That storm has shifted course and now I'm getting 12-18"
I've got arms tonight. Lifting with a coworker from the bar and then have work. If the snow doesn't start too soon I'll get a full shift in. I'll probably take tmrw night off though.
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01-22-2016, 12:22 PM #32485
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01-22-2016, 12:26 PM #32486
Marcus, I don't think you will ever become a normal man. Its who you are to be bigger and badder than others, that part about you will never go away! I'd say "you'll be back", but in truth, you never were away. You're a freak and a freak you will remain!
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01-22-2016, 12:30 PM #32487
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01-22-2016, 12:35 PM #32488
Lord have mercy the leg session went well...of course I had to go alone and felt like a dumbass asking for the guest pass that my "buddy" was to provide me. No worries, they let me in.
Hacks, several warm ups. Working set was 495 for 8, then hands on my knees for 2 reps. Dropped (3 reps) Dropped (3 reps) Dropped (5 reps) Dropped (5 reps). By the end I honestly thought I may puke, but caught my breath. Took longer than a minute before leg press, it was probably like 3 mins.
Leg press, unfortunately since I don't do this often, I had to do 3 feelers, to get teh weight and that alone fatigued teh shit out of me. Kept my feet lower and toes out. My working set was for 12, and put hands on my knees for 4 reps until I was almost incline benching.
*edit* I meant to include RDLs which working weight was moderate so I could hit a higher rep range to squeeze the glutes over and over. Got 16 reps until my knees started to shake and my grip was going to shit.
This Gold's was dirty and, in my opinion, not nice. Only one smith machine and it was being used the entire freaking time but a couple of guys. I decided to just do some walking lunges with DBs and it was great and it sucked at the same time. I grabbed 75s and got 14 steps total before my balance was off and that's when I stop, I don't want a knee thing again.
Extensions and curls was next and after a couple of warm ups I found a good weight and did 16 slow extensions until I was doing partials. Went to hamstring curls and I had to do seated hammy curls and I dont like them much. Got 12 on my working set before I did a few partials. These made me feel like my hammy was tearing off the bone and really finished me off.
Didn't do Marcus' calf routine, but wanted to hit calves with a machine so I performed horizontal calf raises with heavy weight for 2 working sets where I failed at 16, and then 13 reps respectively, and did body weight raises afterward for 20. They didn't have standing calf raises and only one seated calf raise machine, which was being used.
Wish I had timed teh workout because it seemed fast, but I'd be interested in knowing how long I was there. I am constantly coughing now, probably a combination of cold air and the amount of breathing I had to do. Overall, freaking solid leg session and My body is still shaking a bit.Last edited by novastepp; 01-22-2016 at 12:53 PM. Reason: romanian deads
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01-22-2016, 12:35 PM #32489Originally Posted by Igifuno
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01-22-2016, 12:45 PM #32490Originally Posted by Hazard
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01-22-2016, 12:51 PM #32491Originally Posted by Hazard
*parents too lol
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01-22-2016, 12:56 PM #32492
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01-22-2016, 12:56 PM #32493
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01-22-2016, 12:57 PM #32494Originally Posted by Igifuno
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01-22-2016, 12:58 PM #32498
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Originally Posted by krugerr
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01-22-2016, 01:00 PM #32499Originally Posted by Igifuno
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01-22-2016, 01:00 PM #32500
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Originally Posted by Bodacious
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01-22-2016, 01:01 PM #32501
Haz and Krugerror good luck!!!
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01-22-2016, 01:02 PM #32502
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01-22-2016, 01:10 PM #32503
Hope everyone is doing good today seems like we are.
Glad to see the big guy come on here and give us an updated on his self. Good luck Marcus you will never ever be normal. I don't even think you could be if you tired. I think that's why we all look up to you and Kel in here because you all are the true freaks of nature in the sport. Plus you guys help everyone out and want to see other people do good. Anyways good luck and hang in there.
Didn't think I was going to get to the gym today. I got to go and it was a great arm workout. Still nothing to failure just yet. Next week it's going to be on for 6 weeks. I will say it was one of the best workouts I have had since coming off cycle. I got a little pump. Just **** I miss the pumps and strength while I was on cycle. Lol
Anyways going to go play with my dogs in the snow... be back on later
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01-22-2016, 01:12 PM #32504MONITOR
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Lmfao did the wee cvnt shit himself hahaha class big man. I hope it all goes well with the bloods mate so you can get back to normal.
You have helped me so much over the past few months with the hard times in my life i just wish i could do something to help you.
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01-22-2016, 01:14 PM #32505
Ooo...P.S. ... lol
Marcus the comment about if you had to drop BF and standing beside Kel would make him look like a fat cvnt(classic ) ...lol... knowing he probably just got another vien in his leg by you just saying that. Lol ...
Both of yall are freaks of nature ....one day I'll be there...
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01-22-2016, 01:15 PM #32506
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Originally Posted by clarky.
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01-22-2016, 01:17 PM #32507
Clarky I agree with you man. Just wish I coukd also help him out. He has done a ton for myself. Hell if it was for him and Kel don't know where I would be.
Hell in all honesty everyone in the thread has help a ton. Kel is like a freaking Doctor! Man is smart.
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01-22-2016, 01:25 PM #32509Originally Posted by Sfla80
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01-22-2016, 01:26 PM #32510Associate Member
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Marcus keep your head up man. You'll pull through this and come out better. The bloodwork is no doubt a stressful issue to deal with. I've been through some very similar issues in regards to worrisome bloodwork, albeit probably for very different reasons. Another story for another time.
I wrestled and played football growing up and in college man, cut weight in college from around 220 to 189 and 197 depending where I was needed. I'm sure that has done wonders for my body now lol. During that I started training judo and then found Brazilian jiu jitsu back in 1998 and trained like a madman and competed like one as well. I never stopped lifting. Then I decided to start powerlifting in 2010, because how could it go wrong? Effectively never giving myself an offseason for the past 18 years, genius move. Two years ago I cut from 210 down to 177 for the pan ams to compete, that's when I pulled my groin off the bone, but I was determined to compete, so I partially tore my left groin, I became a spectator at the event since I already bought my ticket prior to the tears.
So, I upped my test and got semi healthy, got my elite total at 198# several months later, got back to Bjj and partially tore my groin again running some sprints.
What's my point? Point is that making hard decisions to benefit your health suck, but are absolutely necessary. I've had to let go of being the bad ass Bjj player, and hell it's hard because I'm a part owner of one of the best mma gyms in the region, but I can't train like I want without sacrificing my body anymore. It's not worth it, it's all or nothing for me. When it affected my ability to play with my kid I knew I had to make changes, painful as they may be.
We all probably have body dysmorphia to a degree, regardless of how far we've come, that's why most of us started lifting in the first place. You're never going to be just "another guy". No matter if you drop 20-30 pounds you're still going to be larger than the vast majority.
The training, maybe more rest days between session are in order, not like mentzers recommendations, but more recovery time for your body between such intense sessions. Maybe shorter cycles of intensity in terms of weeks coupled with 2-3 weeks of lower intensity and volume.
Hell man, I was frightened to start back with HIT, all these injuries I've had and still battle, I wasn't sure if it was a smart move and I'm still not. However, I took this week off to make a plan to cycle the training with more down time and trying to instill a better way to auto regulate my body.
Lifting has always been my first love, it's been my best friend when I've called upon it everytime and taught me more life lessons on how to persevere than anything else I can think of over the past 25 years.
Chin up brother, take some time and get things where you want them and don't be too hard on yourself when you have to make those tough decisions. Life is not a matter of holding good cards, but sometimes, playing a poor hand well.
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01-22-2016, 01:46 PM #32511
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01-22-2016, 03:05 PM #32512
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01-22-2016, 03:37 PM #32513
I hope I didn't come across that I was down, I'm not just at a crossroads and have some health issues what need sorting and this fuking freaky body cant wait any longer its battling everyday. I am extremely happy at the moment its just one of those times were I have to sit back and let other people be in control and that's never been me.
I do waffle sometimes, if you read the whole thread which I advise you do you will find many posts were I start and they just go on and on
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Last edited by NACH3; 01-22-2016 at 03:48 PM.
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01-22-2016, 03:41 PM #32515
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01-22-2016, 03:47 PM #32516
Great back and shoulder's today! All straight sets, couple drops here and there.
D handle pulldowns: 2 sets 10-12
Smith supported rows: 2 sets 6-8 with DD on last. Perfect exercise for drops.
T-Bars with olympic bar: 2 sets about 8 reps each. Stayed a plate or so shy of real heavy. Easing back into them. Felt good, saw some stars...
Dumbell simultaneous rows: 2 sets 10-12 reps. Starting to like these.
Barbell shrugs: 2 sets 10-12
Smith presses: 2 sets 8-10 reps then drop on last
Laterals: 2 sets 12ish reps. Always feel better with higher reps on these for me
Supported bent-over laterals: 2 sets 12-15 reps
Pumped up after this one. Real good feel. Just one of those days everything felt right for a change. WTF.
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01-22-2016, 04:02 PM #32517Associate Member
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Originally Posted by marcus300
I just understand what it's like to be at a crossroads and potentially say bye to things you love,or make changes you don't really wanna make due to extenuating circumstances. It was hard for me to realize I may not be able to milk my body for anymore athletic endeavors hat I've grown accustomed to. Maybe I can do one, but I can't do em all like I used to.
I'm still reading!! I'm on the 100s on my phone reading. Long way to go.
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01-22-2016, 05:20 PM #32518There are 3 loves in my life: my wife, my English mastiffs, and my weightlifting....Man, my wife gets really pissed when I get the 3 confused...
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01-22-2016, 05:27 PM #32519
Also best of luck with the labs/blood work. I know it is maddening as fvck when you're body responds in ways you have little or no control over.
There are 3 loves in my life: my wife, my English mastiffs, and my weightlifting....Man, my wife gets really pissed when I get the 3 confused...
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