**Marcus's HIT Dungeon**

**clarky.** · 10-09-2015, 03:02 PM

Originally Posted by Igifuno

I know the feeling. Tell you what Corky, watching my daughter walk into her dorm room after we moved her in and driving away was literally one of the hardest things I've ever done. It was heart wrenching to let go.

I bet it was mate.
We can't be with them every min of the day to make sure they are safe and ok and thats what gets to me Igi. Yes i am over protective lol

**Hazard** · 10-09-2015, 03:36 PM

Originally Posted by clarky.

I bet it was mate. We can't be with them every min of the day to make sure they are safe and ok and thats what gets to me Igi. Yes i am over protective lol

This is how I am..... My daughter is going to be 4 in November so I have a ways to go yet but I'm an absolute prick. I run a tight ship..... That's how my daughters will grow up. I have to stay big to keep the boys in line whenever they date.

**Hazard** · 10-09-2015, 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by NACH3

Don't we all lol The day I see an 8% 230 I may be very happy with except we all know we'll want MORE! Hahaha

That's the problem man..... I wanted 215, 225, 230, 240, 250, 260, 270 lmfao now I want 280.... It never ends

**Igifuno** · 10-09-2015, 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by Hazard

This is how I am..... My daughter is going to be 4 in November so I have a ways to go yet but I'm an absolute prick. I run a tight ship..... That's how my daughters will grow up. I have to stay big to keep the boys in line whenever they date.

We'll talk about this brother. There definitely comes a point in time where you have to make a decision as a father how you're going to handle things. It's important to realize that, if we as fathers, Flip out about boyfriends and when, not if, but when, they get hurt, they won't open up to us at all, instead they'll simply not tell us anything that's going on in their life and it's more torture than anything. I'm saying this from experience. Letting go, and the stages of letting go you have to experience throughout the years of being a father, is definitely some of the hardest things you'll ever have to do, but at some point, always, there's a little bit of letting go thats necessary. And believe it or not, it's healthy not only for them but for us as well.

**Igifuno** · 10-09-2015, 03:56 PM

Don't worry brother. I'm here for you for advice as your baby girls grow up. It's a wild ride brother

**Hazard** · 10-09-2015, 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by Igifuno

We'll talk about this brother. There definitely comes a point in time where you have to make a decision as a father how you're going to handle things. It's important to realize that, if we as fathers, Flip out about boyfriends and when, not if, but when, they get hurt, they won't open up to us at all, instead they'll simply not tell us anything that's going on in their life and it's more torture than anything. I'm saying this from experience. Letting go, and the stages of letting go you have to experience throughout the years of being a father, is definitely some of the hardest things you'll ever have to do, but at some point, always, there's a little bit of letting go thats necessary. And believe it or not, it's healthy not only for them but for us as well.

FALSE.....

I'm chaining her up in the basement lol

**NACH3** · 10-09-2015, 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by Hazard

That's the problem man..... I wanted 215, 225, 230, 240, 250, 260, 270 lmfao now I want 280.... It never ends

Lmao!

Well your on your way then it's 300-315(Big Ramy weight lol)...

Chain her to the basement - damn Haz...

**Hazard** · 10-09-2015, 04:18 PM

Originally Posted by NACH3

Lmao! Well your on your way then it's 300-315(Big Ramy weight lol)... Chain her to the basement - damn Haz...

Even though I'm 265 I don't feel like I look it. I carry weight differently. Marcus is only a couple inches shorter, 10-15lbs less and fvckin beasts me.....

I can't wait to see what I weigh when I cut up

**NACH3** · 10-09-2015, 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by Hazard

Even though I'm 265 I don't feel like I look it. I carry weight differently. Marcus is only a couple inches shorter, 10-15lbs less and fvckin beasts me.....

I can't wait to see what I weigh when I cut up

Yeah but he beasts LOTS o PEOPLE LOL - But being that lean and conditioned you'll look much bigger! Your harder dryer more dense - I think your built to keep size on you... Meaning you'll look bigger than you weigh even when lean - stage ready - your bellies are very full and longer which is a benefit - hard to pull it off but if you do you'll be one nasty built MFer! Lol

**Hazard** · 10-09-2015, 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by NACH3

Yeah but he beasts LOTS o PEOPLE LOL - But being that lean and conditioned you'll look much bigger! Your harder dryer more dense - I think your built to keep size on you... Meaning you'll look bigger than you weigh even when lean - stage ready - your bellies are very full and longer which is a benefit - hard to pull it off but if you do you'll be one nasty built MFer! Lol

that's what the guys at the supplement company my sisters with are saying. They said I have dense thick muscle and they want me to compete

**Sfla80** · 10-09-2015, 04:39 PM

Well first off, haz, clarky, igi....expect pms soon on parental advise hahahha.

Second off you guys are some motivation mother fkers lol.

Kept up with this thread all day today at work just lurking. Kinda sucked actually.

Left for the gym with all the intention of cardio.....and I did actually just do cardio and abs. But sat in the parking lot in a serious debate with myself on to lift or not.

Finally told myself I can't lift and that I need to just do cardio.

Might just lurk in this thread for awhile. My lift aren't gonna be much comparatively to you guys.

**NACH3** · 10-09-2015, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Hazard

that's what the guys at the supplement company my sisters with are saying. They said I have dense thick muscle and they want me to compete

double post

**NACH3** · 10-09-2015, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by Hazard

that's what the guys at the supplement company my sisters with are saying. They said I have dense thick muscle and they want me to compete

I figured

:P

That's awesome tho - what do they or you want to cut you down to? Is it by ear since they're just getting to know your body too - or did they give a target poundage but nothing set in stone - itll depend on how much muscle you hold onto(size wise) and how you look at a lighter weight compared to heavier at same bf etc - Idk I'm thinking a bit heavier than maybe they think(all depending on how big you get first tho

**novastepp** · 10-09-2015, 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by Hazard

that's what the guys at the supplement company my sisters with are saying. They said I have dense thick muscle and they want me to compete

You may be pleasantly surprised at how much bigger you look when very cut. I absolutely think you will like the look, but do yourself a favor if you decide to do it: stay away from the scale. You will obsess over a number rather than the mirror. Avoid it at all costs.

Your look will speak for itself.

**Igifuno** · 10-09-2015, 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by Hazard

FALSE..... I'm chaining her up in the basement lol

Like I said, we'll talk. It takes a lot of thought.

you're love for your family has inspired ,me for years bro.. Trust me I know how grueling the thoughts are with respect to letting go and accepting that your family will get hurt along the way. Need to prepare for it now because she'll be 8, then 10, then 13, then 18 before you know it.

**novastepp** · 10-09-2015, 05:12 PM

Originally Posted by Igifuno

Like I said, we'll talk. It takes a lot of thought.

you're love for your family has inspired ,me for years bro.. Trust me I know how grueling the thoughts are with respect to letting go and accepting that your family will get hurt along the way. Need to prepare for it now because she'll be 8, then 10, then 13, then 18 before you know it.

I already know exactly what I'm going to say to the guy who comes to ask me to marry my daughter. I have rehearsed it many times in my head. Over and over and over.

She is 11 months old.

**Hazard** · 10-09-2015, 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by NACH3

I figured

:P That's awesome tho - what do they or you want to cut you down to? Is it by ear since they're just getting to know your body too - or did they give a target poundage but nothing set in stone - itll depend on how much muscle you hold onto(size wise) and how you look at a lighter weight compared to heavier at same bf etc - Idk I'm thinking a bit heavier than maybe they think(all depending on how big you get first tho

I'm thinking I can drop like 30lbs

**NACH3** · 10-09-2015, 05:34 PM

Originally Posted by Hazard

I'm thinking I can drop like 30lbs

I like that - not too low not too high.... Your gonna look sick brother - full thick dense and conditioned - Fvkn' A!

**Hazard** · 10-09-2015, 05:43 PM

Originally Posted by NACH3

I like that - not too low not too high.... Your gonna look sick brother - full thick dense and conditioned - Fvkn' A!

I can't wait honestly.... I'll be shredded for summer lol

BG · 10-09-2015, 06:09 PM

Good job guys. Things are messed up with me right now and blew my back out so trying to train just a little to keep pumped, so thats why I havent been posting, honestly a little depressed. Also, Im not picking anybody out, but whats up with the pics with shirts on, its becoming a trend ?

**Hazard** · 10-09-2015, 06:11 PM

Originally Posted by BG

Good job guys. Things are messed up with me right now and blew my back out so trying to train just a little to keep pumped, so thats why I havent been posting, honestly a little depressed. Also, Im not picking anybody out, but whats up with the pics with shirts on, its becoming a trend ?

Go back under your rock...... :-p

**novastepp** · 10-09-2015, 06:14 PM

Originally Posted by Hazard

I can't wait honestly.... I'll be shredded for summer lol

Just to get an idea, if you wanted to analyze it a bit, you could take your weight 265/270 and your body fat percentage maybe 10-12% and arrive at your lbm of around 233. So that is as low as you could possibly get at your freaking enormous size. So take the lbm and now assume you to be 5% body fat, add that 5% to your lbm, and you get roughly 244 at 5% body fat.

That is without absolutely any muscle loss whatsoever, which isn't impossible, but getting that low is almost a guarantee of some lbm loss, the idea is to minimize it.

Assuming you diet appropriately, cut with gear, and reduce your body fat by half, I'm betting you can shred to 235 -maybe close to 240- and be 5%.

You'd be a coke machine with a head!

**NACH3** · 10-09-2015, 06:17 PM

Originally Posted by novastepp

Just to get an idea, if you wanted to analyze it a bit, you could take your weight 265/270 and your body fat percentage maybe 10-12% and arrive at your lbm of around 233. So that is as low as you could possibly get at your freaking enormous size. So take the lbm and now assume you to be 5% body fat, add that 5% to your lbm, and you get roughly 244 at 5% body fat.

That is without absolutely any muscle loss whatsoever, which isn't impossible, but getting that low is almost a guarantee of some lbm loss, the idea is to minimize it.

Assuming you diet appropriately, cut with gear, and reduce your body fat by half, I'm betting you can shred to 235 -maybe close to 240- and be 5%.

You'd be a coke machine with a head!

That's awesome! LOL

**NACH3** · 10-09-2015, 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by BG

Good job guys. Things are messed up with me right now and blew my back out so trying to train just a little to keep pumped, so thats why I havent been posting, honestly a little depressed. Also, Im not picking anybody out, but whats up with the pics with shirts on, its becoming a trend ?

Get better ASAP, BG! Rest up & keep your head up!

**Hazard** · 10-09-2015, 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by BG

Good job guys. Things are messed up with me right now and blew my back out so trying to train just a little to keep pumped, so thats why I havent been posting, honestly a little depressed. Also, Im not picking anybody out, but whats up with the pics with shirts on, its becoming a trend ?

Take care of that back man.... Get some rest

**novastepp** · 10-09-2015, 06:27 PM

Originally Posted by NACH3

That's awesome! LOL

It's my go to for a guy that big. Has no actual meaning other than its basically unmovable without help.

**NACH3** · 10-09-2015, 06:35 PM

Tapped off hlf a pint - drained the fastest yet except it just stopped - I found that a smaller piece if tubing(length wise from spike to inside bottle - roughly 3.5+ft) has worked most effectively... I couldn't let go of spike and put mouth piece in(pump - suction) but it drained quite well until it just started spitting(usually when I'd get someone to put the tubing in the bottle to my mouth and use it as a pump to restart the flow) didn't have enough hands

**NACH3** · 10-09-2015, 06:37 PM

Originally Posted by Hazard

I can't wait honestly.... I'll be shredded for summer lol

Shredded And massive!

**Hoggage_54** · 10-09-2015, 06:49 PM

Did legs today... my second leg workout since my return to the gym... they are so ****ing weak (rarely worked them when I was a gym regular so no muscle memory to work with) but I pushed it way harder than the first workout.

I was walking like a Mummy and could barely bend my knees on the way out of the gym so I know I hit them well.

**almostgone** · 10-09-2015, 07:01 PM

Originally Posted by Hazard

I feel great right now. I used to feel winded. Any cardio and I'm winded lol

I'd love to get to 280 as of right now and then reevaluate

I will gladly send you 20# of my excess weight, Haz?

**almostgone** · 10-09-2015, 07:07 PM

Originally Posted by Sfla80

Well first off, haz, clarky, igi....expect pms soon on parental advise hahahha.

Second off you guys are some motivation mother fkers lol.

Kept up with this thread all day today at work just lurking. Kinda sucked actually.

Left for the gym with all the intention of cardio.....and I did actually just do cardio and abs. But sat in the parking lot in a serious debate with myself on to lift or not.

Finally told myself I can't lift and that I need to just do cardio.

Might just lurk in this thread for awhile. My lift aren't gonna be much comparatively to you guys.

Post up what you are comfortable doing, Sfla..I know f you have a hectic schedule, but post when you can. You're my motivation for cardio, buddy. I need to see you posting!

All the best to you and Mrs. Sfla!

**almostgone** · 10-09-2015, 07:19 PM

Didn't sleep too good this morning/afternoon, but am going back for a few hours more rest. I'm beginning to think the years/decades of working 6 or 7 day weeks is taking a toll on me, guys.

Anyway, eating some chicken and rice, and looking forward to a shot when I get up. Working arms late tonight or around 2-3 a.m. Might as well pin biceps tonight.

Edit: I need to find Sfla's recipe for fried/crispy rice. Think I recall seeing it and it read.like the fat content from the oil was.minimal?

**novastepp** · 10-09-2015, 07:28 PM

I wanted to get everyone's thoughts on combining shoulders with another day.

I want to try a chest/back/legs/arms split. However, I need to fit 2 or 3 shoulder exercises in there too. I did BB shrugs on back day for upper traps in case you were wondering.

Does anyone have any ideas for this? I'm thinking I could add a couple shoulder exercises to the chest day.

**almostgone** · 10-09-2015, 07:42 PM

Originally Posted by BG

Good job guys. Things are messed up with me right now and blew my back out so trying to train just a little to keep pumped, so thats why I havent been posting, honestly a little depressed. Also, Im not picking anybody out, but whats up with the pics with shirts on, its becoming a trend ?

Hang in there, buddy. R&R your back and train wisely until your back calms down. Are relaxers giving you any relief?

**Sfla80** · 10-09-2015, 07:51 PM

Originally Posted by almostgone

Didn't sleep too good this morning/afternoon, but am going back for a few hours more rest. I'm beginning to think the years/decades of working 6 or 7 day weeks is taking a toll on me, guys.

Anyway, eating some chicken and rice, and looking forward to a shot when I get up. Working arms late tonight or around 2-3 a.m. Might as well pin biceps tonight.

Edit: I need to find Sfla's recipe for fried/crispy rice. Think I recall seeing it and it read.like the fat content from the oil was.minimal?

Fat content will depend on how much u are cooking ag. For me it was a littlw more because it was always 2-3 cups cooked rice (cooking for 2...she loves it) so if u r cooking 1 cup for urself. A Tbsp maybe 2 for one cup brown rice in a non stick back should work perfeftly.

If u have a really good non stick....probably could get away with 1 Tbsp or even some spray.

Always evoo.

**Bodacious** · 10-09-2015, 07:57 PM

Haz, Nach hell I would be happy with 240-245 10 -12% Bf... Haz on here talking he wants 280... HELL YEA man.

Been a busy night tonight fellas, went out to Japanese restaurant with the wife and some friend. Ate everything I seen because I didn't get my meals in today. So now I am full and reading on here. Back is already sore and tight. Makes me feel good. Hope everyone has a good weekend.

BG · 10-09-2015, 08:10 PM

Originally Posted by almostgone

Hang in there, buddy. R&R your back and train wisely until your back calms down. Are relaxers giving you any relief?

I think they actually weakened it. I wish I never took them. It should be good next week. Sucks just got my shoulder right, now my back. Seems like it just moves from body part to body part.

**kelkel** · 10-09-2015, 09:31 PM

Originally Posted by Hazard

I haven't been eating as much. I just can't..... I'm maintaining 265 but I feel like I look smaller lol

Get off the scale. Use the mirror.

**kelkel** · 10-09-2015, 09:42 PM

Originally Posted by Sfla80

Finally told myself I can't lift and that I need to just do cardio.

Might just lurk in this thread for awhile. My lift aren't gonna be much comparatively to you guys.

Your lifts don't matter right now. Your health does. You're a part of this thread and we expect you to remain one, dammit.

**NACH3** · 10-09-2015, 09:53 PM

Originally Posted by novastepp

I wanted to get everyone's thoughts on combining shoulders with another day.

I want to try a chest/back/legs/arms split. However, I need to fit 2 or 3 shoulder exercises in there too. I did BB shrugs on back day for upper traps in case you were wondering.

Does anyone have any ideas for this? I'm thinking I could add a couple shoulder exercises to the chest day.

I used to do them w/arms(but I'd start w/shoulders if you did - or use your arms first as a ore-exhaust)... That way it fatigues them and your left w/just using your arms(good form concentrating on the squeeze and failure)! I now do delts & traps...

I know Kel does shoulders/back all the time(talk to him about that) I'd imagine you could start or end w/them based off ex's(standard HIT/PRE-EXHAUST)?!?!

I'm sure more will chime in -