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    Watch any part of blood and guts and you will see Dorian get into the zone pre working set, his mind set and aggression is ready for that working set. Its took to true failure were many of us fail and think that's failure he goes past it. Infact look at any hard core pro training and look at the difference in how they train to guys in our gyms.

    Many think failure is when they cant do anymore, well sorry fellas it isn't. If that BB was was crushing your mum or children you would find the power to shift it, its all in the mind., Many times I miss true failure because my mind wasn't right, I have to tap into my zone, my inner self and release the adrenalin what will make me do more reps and take my body to failure. How often on a set you think that's it, that's failure and stop and straight afterwards you think fuking hell I could of done more why didn't I push harder so you get hold of the weight again and go again?? well you should never ever feel that you should be at total failure and unable to perform another rep. That's the difference that's what true HIT is. Not everyone can do it and it takes time to adjust the mind and body.


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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300
    3 sets to failure?? I really think you need to learn to train to true failure. Give it time you will understand what I mean and what failure feels like.
    What we have here, is a failure to communicate. I hit failure for my working set, then rest paused and got a few more until I failed. Then rest paused again until failure.

    I suppose I don't quite have a grasp on the terminology like the pros around here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by novastepp View Post
    What we have here, is a failure to communicate. I hit failure for my working set, then rest paused and got a few more until I failed. Then rest paused again until failure.

    I suppose I don't quite have a grasp on the terminology like the pros around here.
    Dont worry about it, I was just saying that in my opinion doing bb press and db press and going to failure on both would be better condensing the two and doing one pressing movement and truly going to failure because if done correctly you wouldn't be able to do any more pressing. But if your making progress you carry on doing what works for you that all what matters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300
    Watch any part of blood and guts and you will see Dorian get into the zone pre working set, his mind set and aggression is ready for that working set. Its took to true failure were many of us fail and think that's failure he goes past it. Infact look at any hard core pro training and look at the difference in how they train to guys in our gyms. Many think failure is when they cant do anymore, well sorry fellas it isn't. If that BB was was crushing your mum or children you would find the power to shift it, its all in the mind., Many times I miss true failure because my mind wasn't right, I have to tap into my zone, my inner self and release the adrenalin what will make me do more reps and take my body to failure. How often on a set you think that's it, that's failure and stop and straight afterwards you think fuking hell I could of done more why didn't I push harder so you get hold of the weight again and go again?? well you should never ever feel that you should be at total failure and unable to perform another rep. That's the difference that's what true HIT is. Not everyone can do it and it takes time to adjust the mind and body. YouTube Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8-1RTPUVfg
    Thanks for the link. I'm glad I watched that because it's reassuring that I'm doing this correctly. I'm all there.

    I want to get a video and post it here so you guys can see my intensity. I think that would be awesome.
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    Coincidentally with all this talk of overtraining. I hit a low this afternoon. I knew I had a lot of work to do outside this evening, but as my daughter napped I felt freaking exhausted.

    My son wanted to watch a television show and I sat with him and drifted off. Not for long, but maybe 10-15 mins until I heard my daughter wake up.

    I hardly ever take a nap, but today I was freaking beat. I get at least 8 hours at night, and on weekends, I get close to 10.


    After shoulders and me passing out, haha, I had to cut grass and even needed to aerate my yard and I wanted to do my neighbors for her.

    Holy shit! They call the aerator the billy goat, but they might want to change the name to the bull. This is my 3rd autumn using it, but it's always a surprise how rough it is.

    Then had to put down the winterizer. Damn I did like 4 hours of yard work.

    Cashed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    Chest is slightly different because of the angle incline and flat but I would question if you did incline db press then went over to the smith machine and did incline press. Which would be an impossibility if you just gone to complete positive failure and beyond on the db incline press ( or it would be for me) - see my point
    Sure...

    Im doing slight incline(one notch up focusing on upper chest) - then regular incline(we went over this big man) and yes I can & I am hitting true failure then beyond on both presses! However, im not saying that doing 2 reg inclines is possible - im not able to do it either! But one thing is for sure - with chest if I have a spot I go for 2-3 forced every w/set and in my drops(don't count them as reps either, just beyond failure protocols) if not I go til weight comes down on me(literally - just drop em at wherever they are)

    I know this is something one must keep adapting to(especially whatever controls the mindset)... And b4 I trained in here I always had the mindset to go to failure, & tho I wasn't it didn't take long to realize what it was - I was off a tad lol(my Father taught me this at the beginning of my lifting career) -- im in this now for the long haul - If I think I'm in a rut(and not hitting failure I'll be the first to let one know in here... It keeps me fresh(in the mind) and I think you know that I KNOW WHAT TRUE FAILURE IS!
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    Quote Originally Posted by NACH3 View Post
    Sure...

    Im doing slight incline(one notch up focusing on upper chest) - then regular incline(we went over this big man) and yes I can & I am hitting true failure then beyond on both presses! However, im not saying that doing 2 reg inclines is possible - im not able to do it either! But one thing is for sure - with chest if I have a spot I go for 2-3 forced every w/set and in my drops(don't count them as reps either, just beyond failure protocols) if not I go til weight comes down on me(literally - just drop em at wherever they are)

    I know this is something one must keep adapting to(especially whatever controls the mindset)... And b4 I trained in here I always had the mindset to go to failure, & tho I wasn't it didn't take long to realize what it was - I was off a tad lol(my Father taught me this at the beginning of my lifting career) -- im in this now for the long haul - If I think I'm in a rut(and not hitting failure I'll be the first to let one know in here... It keeps me fresh(in the mind) and I KNOW WHAT FAILURE IS!
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    hahah I know that I was making a point which wasn't directed at you. I know you have come a hell of a long way and it shows, well done mate
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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    hahah I know that I was making a point which wasn't directed at you. I know you have come a hell of a long way and it shows, well done mate
    LOL - thx it's always good to hear that from you!

    And yes you should np make the same points with everyone.. Just reinforces your passion for this and everyone you come in contact with! You've changed many lives... You create beasts and freaks - all the time! Not a coincidence if you ask me

    Cheers my friend!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NACH3 View Post
    LOL - thx it's always good to hear that from you!

    And yes you should np make the same points with everyone.. Just reinforces your passion for this and everyone you come in contact with! You've changed many lives... You create beasts and freaks - all the time! Not a coincidence if you ask me

    Cheers my friend!
    I am passionate about this but I know its not for everyone what I do I think sometimes I should just say nothing unless they ask lol.........anyway I'm pissed off because I'm not training for 2 days so very irritable and need to take it out on some weights, and that means failure
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    DY is so fvkin massive in that vid - I like that look lol - that is sheer thickness/density/& very full muscle bellies. Amazing!
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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    I am passionate about this but I know its not for everyone what I do I think sometimes I should just say nothing unless they ask lol.........anyway I'm pissed off because I'm not training for 2 days so very irritable and need to take it out on some weights, and that means failure
    Oh no... Please do be like you are it's so much more fun... It's like you can get thru to us by actually just being like a psychologist - you end up posing it as a question which imho helps tremendously -- not to mention we wouldn't have learned a thing by not being able to answer our own questions which most of the time it's just that - you just pose it differently

    Ooh I can't wait to see your next session

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    Quote Originally Posted by NACH3 View Post
    DY is so fvkin massive in that vid - I like that look lol - that is sheer thickness/density/& very full muscle bellies. Amazing!
    This video fuks me right up

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    Quote Originally Posted by NACH3 View Post
    Oh no... Please do be like you are it's so much more fun... It's like you can get thru to us by actually just being like a psychologist - you end up posing it as a question which imho helps tremendously -- not to mention we wouldn't have learned a thing by not being able to answer our own questions which most of the time it's just that - you just pose it differently

    Ooh I can't wait to see your next session
    hahah no probs
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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    This video fuks me right up

    Holy Shiat - his back has wings... I mean his back are wings! Haha And his abs/waist were/was wicked sm/ripped as you can get being that big and thick!
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    Back n shoulders today. Went well.

    Medium grip D-ring pull downs: 1 working, rp then drop
    Smith supported rows: 1 working, rp then drop
    BB rows: 1 working, rp then drop (seeing a trend here).....
    CG pull downs: 2 heavy, slow
    Behind back shrugs: 2 heavy, last with rp.

    Shoulders. Can't train them (or chest) HIT just yet due to the slight pull, but it's getting close and feeling better.

    BB front press: 2 sets, medium weight 10 reps or so
    Lateral raises: 2 sets, heavy as possible, 10-12 reps
    Rear's: 2 sets, 12-15 reps.

    Great back work and happy with shoulders, all things considered. Oh, and since it's the weekend I stuffed myself with a BBQ chicken flat bread pizza. Yes, I ate the whole thing.
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    Decent work w/ arms tonight. If a pump counts, then it went very well, I think. Left arm still takes the blood better than the right, but it should catch up eventually. May have slightly shorted tris tonight; got a last minute phone call. Plan to go ahead and hit shoulders tomorrow to punsh myself for not budgeting my time better.


    Seated alt. d'bell curls-2 w/u, Work-5+ reps, drop,3+ reps, drop,4+reps- 3+ reps.(The "-" mark between groups of reps is how I indicate a rest-pause).
    Incline alt. d'bell curls-2 w/u, Work-5+,drop,4+,drop,2+ - 3+ reps.
    D'bell preacher curl- Work-4+,drop,2+,drop,3+ and 5 cheat reps w/ a slow neg. per side.
    Close grip straight bar cable curl- Work-5,drop,3+,drop,6+ w/ some cheat.
    Close grip Smythe-2 w/u, Work-5,drop,4+,drop,5+
    Triceps press down w/ rope-1 w/u, Work1-3+,drop, 5+. Work2-6+ reps.
    Biceps stretch off a high bar in Smythe machine- long 60 count.

    39 minutes.

    Defo will focus on allowing myself more time and taking my full minute rest starting w/ this next rotation of body parts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GirlyGymRat View Post
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    Right back at you!
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    Quote Originally Posted by NACH3 View Post
    Holy Shiat - his back has wings... I mean his back are wings! Haha And his abs/waist were/was wicked sm/ripped as you can get being that big and thick!
    That's what you call a freak. That photo was legendary
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    Morning everyone! Whatcha lifting today, I'm coming off a rest day gonna kill shoulders and arms!!

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    Shoulders this evening for me. Usually have to wait a day between arms and shoulders, but I didn't get as deep into working triceps as I needed to last night, so shoulders this evening. Presses should throw a little.work @ triceps and I aim to push extra more on shoulder presses tonight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    That's what you call a freak. That photo was legendary
    Looks like he was carved from stone. Beyond freaky, IMO, pretty much a whole new level of mass and conditioning.
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    Good morning everyone.
    Delts are extremely tight this morning. I can feel the soreness setting in.
    Sunday is a rest day for me, so I'm with you in spirit today if you're hitting the iron.

    He who makes a beast out of himself, gets rid of the pain of being a man!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by almostgone View Post
    Looks like he was carved from stone. Beyond freaky, IMO, pretty much a whole new level of mass and conditioning.
    Unbelievable! I must have watched that 5x in a row... I believe DY was the one who really pushed the envelope in taking mass to a whole new level!

    Nice Session AG... I bet you were able to shift some more weight w/that full min rest!

    My delts/traps are very deeply sore!
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    Morning dungeoneers. You sick fvcks. I had such a great day yesterday with my daughter. Lots of great memories.

    Back at it today and drooling to get in. In the lot right now about to go in waiting for my pre workout to kick in lol. Was supposed to be in here at 8am, my partner wasn't ready and asked to postpone til 9am.. Then the bastard just sent a text and bailed. Little irritated but I'm over it. Time to get on with the shred.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NACH3 View Post
    Unbelievable! I must have watched that 5x in a row... I believe DY was the one who really pushed the envelope in taking mass to a whole new level!

    Nice Session AG... I bet you were able to shift some more weight w/that full min rest!

    My delts/traps are very deeply sore!
    Yea I agree DY is the man. Nach have you every watched return of the shadow??? I know Marcus has posted it before. Its worth watching.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Igifuno View Post
    Morning dungeoneers. You sick fvcks. I had such a great day yesterday with my daughter. Lots of great memories.

    Back at it today and drooling to get in. In the lot right now about to go in waiting for my pre workout to kick in lol. Was supposed to be in here at 8am, my partner wasn't ready and asked to postpone til 9am.. Then the bastard just sent a text and bailed. Little irritated but I'm over it. Time to get on with the shred.
    That's great man. Glad you you had a good time. Go kill the back workout. I am going to murder my shoulders with ya.

    Everyone have a good Sunday and lets all pray the Cowboys win... LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bodacious View Post
    That's great man. Glad you you had a good time. Go kill the back workout. I am going to murder my shoulders with ya.

    Everyone have a good Sunday and lets all pray the Cowboys win... LOL
    Cowboys.... FU! LOL I fvkin can not stand those fvkers lol

    If it was posted I'm sure I saw parts
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    Quote Originally Posted by NACH3 View Post
    Cowboys.... FU! LOL I fvkin can not stand those fvkers lol

    If it was posted I'm sure I saw parts
    LMAO...

    Yea it was good. He also just did a two part one. I could only watch the first part I couldn't figure out how to watch the 2nd. He goes over everything.

    Everyone have a good Sunday off to the gym.
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    I saw that - LR?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bodacious
    That's great man. Glad you you had a good time. Go kill the back workout. I am going to murder my shoulders with ya. Everyone have a good Sunday and lets all pray the Cowboys win... LOL
    Actually worked chest and it was amazing session. And by the way, everyone here is patriots fans, especially has Hazard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Igifuno View Post
    Actually worked chest and it was amazing session. And by the way, everyone here is patriots fans, especially has Hazard.
    BOOM! On the w/o!
    I don't know Igi... They did beat my beloved Eagles in the SB! :/ but then again McNabb was puking while the time was ticking down!

    I do like the Pat's much more than the Giants lol

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    Chest this morning

    Decline/wide hammer machine to warm

    Every rep was holding at bottom of movement for few sec and using "working" as my final weight, reps hitting 12ish.

    Incline db flies 2 w 1 f 1 working 1 drop

    Flat flies 2 w 1 drop

    Flat db press 2 w 1 drop

    Incline db press 2 w 1 drop

    Straight set of high cables and even cables.

    One arm cable fly

    Abs to finish off.


    I know Noone is a doc or anything lol.....but was thinking. What do you guys think of going 1 week a month of heavy and the other weeks like I have been? Just a thought.
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    I'd listen or ask your doc, Sfla! Your health is far more important! Plus they don't seem to know exactly what's going on yet - :/ I know you want to go heavy man
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sfla80
    Chest this morning Decline/wide hammer machine to warm Every rep was holding at bottom of movement for few sec and using "working" as my final weight, reps hitting 12ish. Incline db flies 2 w 1 f 1 working 1 drop Flat flies 2 w 1 drop Flat db press 2 w 1 drop Incline db press 2 w 1 drop Straight set of high cables and even cables. One arm cable fly Abs to finish off. I know Noone is a doc or anything lol.....but was thinking. What do you guys think of going 1 week a month of heavy and the other weeks like I have been? Just a thought.
    Don't overlook the possibility of long term issues for a little short term pleasure.

    Always consult with the doc. You could even call them and make it a quick phone convo.

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    Fuuuuuuccckkkkk yeeeaaaa!!!! SMASHED shoulders! Rest day yesterday and ate a ton with the wife after her competition. Not even a drinker and I drunk 2 small beers with her because I didn't really wanna be that guy. All that food had to help me today plus the rest day. I am taking yalls advice on the rest days. I am taking 2 days a week now where I use to only take one. Guys I don't know if I am doing this HIT thing right or not.I am going to where I can pick weight up any more. My shoulders was like HELL NO WE ARE DONE MFer...I told him ****ers they was going to grow today. I do know I am killing my workouts the last 2 weeks. I will post workout later. Have so much to do today around the house. Will be lurking on and off all day. This week will be 3rd week into my test c cycle going to start my var at week 5. So hopefully the test will start to kick in some this week.

    I better stay away for Haz today if he is a PATS fan. They are going to kill my Cowboys. Anyways talk to everyone later.
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    Agreed...Guys ...was just a thought.

    It's like an addiction and I'm withdrawing. Arguing with the demons inside my head haha.

    Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bodacious
    Fuuuuuuccckkkkk yeeeaaaa!!!! SMASHED shoulders! Rest day yesterday and ate a ton with the wife after her competition. Not even a drinker and I drunk 2 small beers with her because I didn't really wanna be that guy. All that food had to help me today plus the rest day. I am taking yalls advice on the rest days. I am taking 2 days a week now where I use to only take one. Guys I don't know if I am doing this HIT thing right or not.I am going to where I can pick weight up any more. My shoulders was like HELL NO WE ARE DONE MFer...I told him ****ers they was going to grow today. I do know I am killing my workouts the last 2 weeks. I will post workout later. Have so much to do today around the house. Will be lurking on and off all day. This week will be 3rd week into my test c cycle going to start my var at week 5. So hopefully the test will start to kick in some this week. I better stay away for Haz today if he is a PATS fan. They are going to kill my Cowboys. Anyways talk to everyone later.
    I remember Swolecat, RIP, told me once that to train to failure you will want to quit LONG BEFORE your body does. I remember we would be on leg day and trying to hit 20 reps on his Swole Squat routine, after prefatiguing your knew you had chosen the correct weight if you wanted to quit at 12-15 reps, but you hit 20 or a couple more.

    So when my body is on fire and I want to stop, that's when I know I MUST do more. Sometimes it's 1 more rep, and sometimes it's legendary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by almostgone View Post
    Looks like he was carved from stone. Beyond freaky, IMO, pretty much a whole new level of mass and conditioning.
    I think he set a new standard which was hard to beat, there's a few videos of that photo shoot and it still sends shivers over me but I am bias
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